Then you can probably count yourself among criminals Waffler.

Anonymous Ottawa...although I do agree with you, we would do well to clean up our own back yard before throwing stones. Canada is allowing all the same things.

The government rules, not only by making rules that turn law abiding citizens into criminals, but with the ultimate threat of violence. Now you tell me...who are the real criminals?

Archer, While the government was "designed" to thwart the power plays of the ruling class, they have come full circle. Its not you and I that they represent now, its the ruling class. And the "ruling" class rules the government itself. The White House is now merely the stage for the puppet show run by...yup! International bankers. The same ones slowly and deliberately destroying the economy. I think it was nathan Rothschild who alluded to control of currency being control of all...

Joe, those are reasonable observations. I don't really think slavery had "nothing" to do with it. Slavery is a blight on American history for sure. But I think the entire world believes that slavery was a particularly American thing too, which is wrong. Slavery was implemented by the English, Spanish, French and Portuguese and brough to America. The slaves themselves were often rounded up by other tribes in Africa and brought to ports for shipment. All in all a horrible thing. In any event, I think you and I are basically on the same page.

Joe, North Caldwell...And the black population were treated as local gentry in Newark? Again, slavery had nothing to do with any of it.

The first mistake everyone makes about the war between the states is that it was about slavery. It was not. The North had its fair share of slaves and Lincoln himself offered in a letter to the Confederacy that escaped slaves would be returned to the south as a concession to the return of the south to the union. His "nobility" on the emancipation of slaves is a crock. The war was about bringing the south and its resources under the control of the industrialized north. Slavery would have died a natural death anyway and it was only a matter of time. It was indeed the south that was fighting for liberty. The north for control, and that "control" is very much alive and well today as the White House and International Bankers share a bed. Wasn't it Andrew Jackson who said "These international bankers are a pit of vipers and must be routed from these United States"? There's the real reason for the Civil War.

Australian Shooter magazine did a quick study on some death statistics. The deaths per capita in Iraq. a war zone where pretty much everybody has a gun are actually about 30% lower than murders per capita in Washington DC. DC has strict gun control laws. Conclusion: the US should pull out of Washington! :)

No greater excuse than "For the good of the people" has ever been given for tyranny. And its Bull*hit. And right on Archer. Control control control...that's what its all about.

Social Justice is anything but! It's the vehicle through which our rights, our freedom and our money are stolen. I do believe in "Justice"... but we can leave the word "social(ist)" out of it.

In a movie called "The Corporation" it is demonstrated quite clearly that all corporations are psychopathic. Somehow that just doesn't seem healthy.

In a deliberate effort to confuse dissent with disloyalty, Janet Napolitano and the loose cannon "Homeland Security" have now labeled veterans returning from overseas, NRA members. Libertarians, Minuteman organizations and pretty much anyone else who is a Constitutionalist, as "Right Wing Extremist". Never confuse Loyalism with Patriotism...they are two very different things. I'll refer you to events of 1776 to make the point.

We've gone from a nation of people capable of critical thinking to a nation of taxpaying consumer/sheep. Inventory. If we don't wake up soon, we'll find ourselves at the door of the slaughterhouse....

Warren, I speak to people here that are from Eastern European countries occasionally. They fled communism to be in a "free" country, and after just a few years they are saying they had more freedom where they came from. Sad.

On this subject I came across a skit / diatribe by someone who put some thought into our situation today. I don't agree with everything he says, but it is powerful - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA&feature=related

If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. ~ Samuel Adams

Brilliant in its simplicity.

Completely on your own planet aren't you Waff?

The American Experiment came about by watering the liberty tree with the blood of tyrants. I wonder if it can ever be restarted...

Lincoln offered to return runaway slaves to the south in an effort to compel the Confederacy to rejoin the Union. They were not compelled as the issue was not about slavery. The north had its fair share of slaves too. Waffler try and stay on track, difficult for a statist and propogandist I know..but do try would you...

RBESRQ - Good Point! :)

Not "the" most important right...but definately in the top 5.

People have no basic property rights any where in North America...at least not under law. That being said, lets not allow the Obammunists to disarm a nation already under siege. I don't know about you...but I don't consider myself "inventory" for a bunch of useless parasites, and when in my house, you are under the rule of natural law.

The purpose of government is for those who run it to plunder those who do not. Throughout history, governments have used violence, intimidation, coercion, and mass murder to enforce this system. But governments' first line of "defense" is always a blizzard of lies — about its own alleged benevolence, altruism, heroism, and greatness, along with equally big lies about the "evils" of the civil society, especially the free market.~ Thomas J. DiLorenzo

Waff, its disgusting and despicable that you can be so openly communist and still have the gall to call yourself an American.