I'm not ignorant of the facts at all...I watch CNN and Fox and I know exactly what is going on. We're winning the war on terror. Our tax dollars will end Global warming. Our Government is well organized, efficient and benevolent. The shadow government of bankers and corporate interests is only a myth. The FDA only approves things that are good for us. And War is Peace and Ignorance is Strength. What else do I need to know right? Just tell me where to vote!

Sadly too few of us have a good grasp of the word freedom. Nor do we recognize its slow death. Truth is...if we don't defend it, it goes away.

"In times of tyranny, telling the truth is an act of rebellion" Orwell.

Freedom is natural and must be defended. That requires very few laws.

If nothing else, "Under God" or "In God We Trust" might mean simply that we acknowledge we are sovereign individuals with the "God Given" rights that go with it. The governments agenda isn't to get rid of "God". But in doing so they have one avenue of attack on our individual rights as they negate the term "God Given" rights. And all the while no one is forcing religion on you. So its an individual choice isn't it?

PS, are you sure it wasn't because the word "Republic" was in there? :)

Warren, It isn't the "American People" at all. If anything "American" is responsible for the ills of the world...its corporate / government coercion and foreign policy combined and backed with the military. And even that is speculative...but sure as hell it isn't everyday Americans. They're great! :)

To me, a fanatic is someone who keeps going long after the cause is lost or forgotten. Or in the case of the Goreacle, St. Suzuki and their followers...misguided.

When I was a kid in school on a US base...I remember these words....we said them every morning... "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." That was in the 1960's. Did any one notice just when it stopped?

Yesterday's propoganda is today's public relations. I see this in the number of people I meet who claim we are doing fine because they have it so rough "over there". The way things are going we'll be doing just as well as "they" are soon enough. We need a return to sound money and sound government.

The "justice" system has been entirely replaced with a "legal" system. I've chosen to remain moral.

As can be seen to have manifested itself in the Congress over the decades since about 1913, and most especially in President Bush.

Plato understood the nature of politicians didn't he? We need statesmen not poiliticians.

No excuse for tyranny other than "for the good of the people" has ever been given.

We've been living with a soft tyranny for decades now. And every excuse for usurpation and government expansion has been a war of some kind...even the "war on drugs" is an example.

Extremism in the defense of Liberty is about the same as extremism in the defense of life, they are one and the same.

Terrorism will not be beaten by taking away American rights, freedoms and liberties. Nor will it be beaten by standing bureaucracies vying for power and funding. Usurpations by the White House are not a solution to anything. Security as we've come to see it is a joke at best, and anticipates nothing.

People the world over understand this..why not so much in America? I'm proud of American Ideals...just haven't seen them in a long while.

I don't believe the American people are generally corrupt. I do believe the ones who aren't outright apathetic are too disgusted to perticipate in the system though. I wonder how far the Government will go with its agenda of control and fascism "lite" before the regular Joe starts to fight back? Its an eventuality for sure.

How about "zero" corruption? And easy to do too...we put the Government under microscopic surveillance.

This quote underlines the problem I have with a "Legal" system as opposed to a "Justice" system. the Law can be a sword, while Justice is a shield.

The Goreacle is an eco-evangelist bent on a one world government. And he's nothing more than a dog and pony show. The "fact" is that the earth is cooling. But no one is doing any dramatic footage of natural events (and make millions from it) because the truth is actually kind of boring. And the Nobel folks finally brought the prestige of their award down to the level of a paper weight, awarding it to Gore. Good Lord the stuff people will believe if its in technicolor or on CNN is astounding. (Oh and by the way, we have more Polar Bears than ever up here) lol :)

The author of the quote is very soundly correct. And..."Call it what you want the Turks, Russians and Chineese were right to execute smokers"....Those are the words of a Nazi, not an American. The fact is weather you're talking about smoking, drinking or just being that annoying guy with a horn at the big game...Government has NO BUSINESS getting involved, plain and simple. When they get involved you can be gauranteed there is no where they will stop expanding "control". Gaurd liberty as you would your life, because they're one and the same.

Waffler, I think your folks are ethically and naturally bound to "socially engineer" their boy. Its called parenthood. But not so the government. Still, point taken.

Government has no business in social engineering. None.