Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Comment on this quote Share via Email Print this Page New York Times Quote “When men get in the habit of helping themselves to the property of others, they cannot be easily cured of it.” ~ New York Times 1909, commenting on the proposed 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Property , Subservience , Taxation , Theft Ratings and Comments 1 Reply J Allen, Arlington, VA 11/24/10 Very sage editorial, wish it had the author's name. 1 Reply jim k, Austin 11/24/10 This brings us to the income tax which is nothing more than government sanctioned extortion. It's legalized theft. 1 Reply J Carlton, Calgary 11/24/10 Describes perfectly the "culture of theft" that pervades our serf like lives today. Reply david stewart, lakeland, la 11/24/10 where can we read the whole NYT editorial containing this quote? Reply Waffler, Smith 11/24/10 True and that is why legislation is needed to protect against things like child labor, explotation of women, immigrants etcetera. The nation has always been full of people who will take every bit of dignity and humanity from others for their own personal enrichment, from slave holders, indentured servants etc. Not to mention the rape and degradation of the environment for personal gain. 1 Reply RBESRQ 11/24/10 The only way to stop that habit is to make it very painful to even start. 2 Reply E Archer, NYC 11/24/10 Waffler, your proposals are the very cause of the wholesale theft of labor and property in this country. You believe you should have the right to tell everyone else how it should be, and thus defend the plundering of the People for your personal crusades. To supposedly save women and children from exploitation, the means are simply to exploit ALL the people. Brilliant, Waffler, truly brilliant (not). 2 Reply Mike, Norwalk 11/24/10 Then, when those men have sufficiently advanced their habit of helping themselves to the property of others (complete with all illegal and irrational arguments and extinguished any moral sensitivity thereto), they then enter government to perfect their habits. 1 Reply gunnycee, durham, NC 11/24/10 I don't know the history of 1909 when this was first proposed. It would be interesting to find out what the political and social circumstances were that spawned this outright theft of our incomes. 1 Reply Lee Poteet, Stroud 11/26/10 Every time that the government wants to take money from any particular section of the economy to benefit another, we should know that we are all taking another step towards serfdom. The person who is looted of the rewards of his labor or even his inherited wealth for the benefit of others is made nothing less than a slave. 1 Reply warren, olathe 12/5/10 Guess the times have changed a bit. 1Reply Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/5/25 Childish quotation, men want to be respected and acknowledged for their true authentic imperishable human possessions, thoughts and ideas. True substantial thoughts and ideas take the entire species, actually helping others, to a whole new forward advance. True possessions help all, simply because humans support humans. 1 Reply E Archer, NYC Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/8/25 And that requires taxing people's labors? You cannot raise a man up by tearing another man down. 1Reply Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown E Archer, NYC 5/9/25 Mr Archer, I am completely against the practices of predation and in a favor of honest integrity. You are tearing down folks when you are not properly housing, feeding, and developing everyone and blaming this same victim. 2 Reply E Archer, NYC Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/9/25 It is not the citizen's responsibility to feed or house his neighbor, so neither can it be the representative government's responsibility either. Charity and compassion must be voluntary, and dare I say essential for a 'civilized' people. Most social ills are caused by government overstepping its authority — like printing money until it becomes nearly worthless, which is the primary cause of poverty in the world. Every animal in nature must provide for itself or else perish. Man cannot avoid the laws of nature. 2Reply Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown E Archer, NYC 5/9/25 Something, according to the child's tale, even the great god couldn't respond to, but you are your brother and sister's keeper. We are an advanced creature of social responsibility and we will carry out this action for it is nature's command for us to enable all of life's preservation directive. Reply Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/9/25 Mr Archer, you and all the other degenerates miss the entire point of our very existence. We need not hunt and kill for preservation. We have a responsibility to exchange information and positive labor to better enhance our survival by positive production and creation. We have an obligation to more than just a bunch of cowardly murderers, rapist, and robbers. We are intended by nature to be honorable universal citizens of integrity and responsibility through law abiding connection and transmission. 1 Reply E Archer, NYC Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/11/25 The quote is about helping ourselves to the property of others. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is a corruption of the Golden Rule. Twisting the Biblical verse "Am I my brother's keeper?" to defend plunder is a classic tactic used by atheists to supposedly confront the faithful's hypocrisy, all the while their own hypocrisy knows no bounds in their 'legalized' theft of the fruits of the labors of the freeman. 1Reply Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown E Archer, NYC 5/12/25 Mr Archer, nothing was twisted, what was displayed was just an observance of the insubstantialism of the all knowing, all seeing god. The child's tale is as follows: Cain murders his brother Abel, over Abel's produce. The god supposedly asked Cain about the whereabouts of his brother Abel. Cain answered as the story follows, "Am I my brothers keeper?" The god guy didn't answer as we recall. We gullible catholic kid's undoubtedly knew that the god guy knew. But the hard core catholic kids knew because of the numerous attempts to kill their own family members. The gullible just stopped attending the church, started thinking, stopped believing in the gods and understanding we are responsible for ourselves and everyone else. It's called mental and social health, Socialism. Again we are our brother and sister's keeper. 1 Reply E Archer, NYC Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/13/25 It is indeed a shame that the corruptions of the Catholic Church have caused so many to throw the baby out with the bath water. Are Jesus' words any less true because of wickedness in high places? Once again, the socialists attempt to appropriate what they never created and what is not theirs. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Statists, whether religious or atheistic, seek power — they claim authority over others, declaring any view other than their own to be inferior. Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile — they are 'liberal' no more. "The devil cites scripture for his own purposes..." 1Reply Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown E Archer, NYC 5/13/25 Mr Archer, Jesus is not much more than a myth to me. The story of Jesus depends on who tell it. Hulk Hogan's version would present itself along the lines "Jesus said, if I wasn't nailed to this cross I would kick all your arses," and so on. There's definitely no devil, mentally ill folks can make the devil characterization description tale appear an amateur, maybe an angel. About misappropriation, the Socialist just desires a more legitimate economic base than drug running and sex trafficking. I personally seek only to control my own sound moral behavior. Absolute authority is moral authority, and absolute morality is the human authority. Reply E Archer, NYC Fredrick William Sillik, Anytown 5/16/25 "The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist." ~ Charles Baudelaire SaveOk2 SaveOk2 View CommentsClick to view or comment. 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