“None who have always been free can understand the terrible fascinating power of the hope of freedom to those who are not free.”

Sillik, spoken like a true socialist. "Freedom is the construct and illusion of the child." Freedom in reality "IS" at the "law of nature and of nature's God" (Declaration of Independence) Finally, you have said something accurate, socialism is an exercise in pain, poverty, enslavement, and otherwise antithetic to the nobility of man.

Mike, Norwalk, Socialism is the discovery of our interconnected founding social being connection, through which we find the rest of our capacities and capabilities, our decency, dignity, and our daring. 

Sillik, like a mentally ill child that has had the light shined on them, you once again responded to other than the topic — "freedom". OK, I'll bite on the new topic; "the discovery of our interconnected founding social being connection"? Just another incomprehensible word salad dogma attempt from your religion's fallacious dictionary for mentally ill dupes. As you've stated in the past: "you won't say anything unless you can prove it." Pleas use scientific methodology with examples to prove your statement. By example, I can show socialism (any of various economic, religious and political theories, philosophies or movements outside nature’s law advocating collective or governmental / religious ownership and administration of property {real / chattel / sensorial beings, etc.} along with the means of production and distribution of goods.) to be detrimental to the human experience (authors thereof; Marx, Stalin, Hitler, Mao).

Mike, Norwalk, sorry but I may have allowed myself a misstatement in that I can explain my positions and that perform auspiciously in terms of proof. 

Now Mike, Norwalk, the key feature to our existence is the social aspect. As we evolve we are understanding the appropriateness of this feature. 

Also Mike, Norwalk, the fellows you named were technology fellows with not enough behavioral acumen to fully or maybe even remotely understand the foundation of proper social formation.  Their human behavioral components were not properly formulated. 

Mike, Norwalk, the behaviorist will first have to perform their responsibilities before the tech guys arrive, tech guys make technology, behaviorist create humans. 

Correction: Mike, Norwalk, sorry but I may have allowed myself a misstatement, properly stated I can explain my positions and that performs auspiciously in terms of proof. 

Sillik, 🤪 WHAT? ? ? 🤪 I'm still waiting for your explanation concerning your positions that perform auspicious terms of proof. Your religious dogma stated by way of incomprehensible word salad doesn't work.  AND; your personally fallacious non—definition of socialism from your dictionary for mentally ill dupes doesn't even come close to legal and otherwise dictionaries, encyclopedias or historical use.

Mike, Norwalk, please just lead on with your own personal rendition of  "We are the world, we are the children," which appears the true international anthem of the world play-pen. 

Mike, Norwalk, I'm just stating that there's just one basic definition of Socialism, simply the realization and recognition of the socially behaving individual, resulting in this definition never being accurately being identified.  This definition is not necessarily superior, just finally, similar analogous, someone has understood that one plus one equals two after all. The unbalanced mind cannot recognize the most simple of formulations, it requires the balanced mind to recognize true balance and correctness, the true defining ideological expression.  

Sillik, there is just ONE basic definition of Socialism and your dictionary for mentally ill dupes' definition doesn't come close. Your god's ethos is wrong again. If your definition isn't superior, why do your word salads always go against Socialism's real definition? How would you know if your definition of Socialism required a balanced mind, defining a true ideological expression? — since, you do NOT have a balanced mind! 🤪

Fred, you can't just declare there is only one definition of socialism — yours.  And your definition is not even a definition — it's pseudo-intellectual nonsense.  What the heck is a "socially behaving individual" anyway? 

I wouldn't rate your mind as 'balanced' — one-sided, absolutism is the very definition of 'unbalanced.'  I doubt there is a single person on Earth that understands what you are talking about — not to mention anyone who would stand with you.  Your arguments are senseless, lacking any substance, i.e. nonsense.  Billy Madison is more understandable than you are.

Mr Archer, good to hear from again. This is not exactly a declaration, it is as Mr Marx expressed we reflect life in the life process.  This is my personal reflection of the process that our social being is the foundation of it all, that we can be sociable anywhere anytime. Mr Marx reflections had some technical ideas about organization and this was presumably prerequisite to becoming a Socialist Community. Mr Marx's reflections were not complete, we must begin with behavioral adaptations and refinements or so says Mr Fredrick William Sillik's reflections. 

Additionally, Mr Archer, every adult understands me, if the "WE ARE THE WORLD, WE ARE THE CHILD" don't understand me, I'm not too surprised, for the strategy is to develop the child.  Let us eliminate the playing, and begin the great challenge that is in front of us.

Even further, Mr Archer,  the socially behaving individual is the individual that BEHAVES APPROPRIATELY IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
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And Mr Archer, I don't have to inform you that practicing appropriate behavior is anything easy, far from it. Appropriate behavior involves the practice of refinement. 

Also Mr Archer, you can never be perfect at being human, but you must try for that critical defining qualifying excellence.  Instead of practicing the long bomb at the gridiron or that 360 degree dunk shot at the basketball court, practice at being human. Go out into the Walmarts or main street USA and try to make friends and be a friend. Socialism is appropriateness and appropriate.